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are in mitt romney's camp. please them or be rationale. >> i thought as i was watching his convention speech, going along, saying he's doing a good job, this is an a-minus, b-plus speech, and then he veered into foreign policy in the last few seconds and it was scary as can be. the tone he took about iran, tone about russia, we're going to reinstate the cold war, third war in asia on the ground against iran, i was thinking of independent voters saying oh, my gosh, this guy has lost me. >> no appetite for that. >> that fits in with this broader narrative that mitt romney has tried to further about the president being weak on, you know, on american interests. you've written a book called a nation woosts, but we can't close out the show without mentioning it. the idea that somehow the president is apologizing for america -- mitt romney said it again today and jonathan, my favorite part, he was making this big point about the bigness of the american heart and bigness of the american spirit and the next line was and
are in mitt romney's camp. please them or be rationale. >> i thought as i was watching his convention speech, going along, saying he's doing a good job, this is an a-minus, b-plus speech, and then he veered into foreign policy in the last few seconds and it was scary as can be. the tone he took about iran, tone about russia, we're going to reinstate the cold war, third war in asia on the ground against iran, i was thinking of independent voters saying oh, my gosh, this guy has lost me....
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. >> and while the president took a shot at mitt romney over the economy, romney was hammering him over foreign policy. insisting the president's comments about bumps in the road in the middle east were out of line. >> these are developments we do not want to see. >> i want to bring in my fan tak fan takes sick panel, andrea mitchell, jamie rubin and "time" magazine's editor-at-large. good to see all of you. an dra dree arlet me have you s the stage. >> the president will give a tough speech, he'll say containment is not an option regarding iran. but these are words will be contradicted by the fact that he's leaving so quickly and by the criticism that he's not meeting with foreign leaders. i think they could have made the argument that he's not going to be here when netanyahu arrives for thursday's speech, but to say that he's not going to meet with president morsi who has been giving very interesting interviews and is really at an infliction point, leaving that to the secretary of state, this is the first time and in election years past presidents in both political parties have met on
. >> and while the president took a shot at mitt romney over the economy, romney was hammering him over foreign policy. insisting the president's comments about bumps in the road in the middle east were out of line. >> these are developments we do not want to see. >> i want to bring in my fan tak fan takes sick panel, andrea mitchell, jamie rubin and "time" magazine's editor-at-large. good to see all of you. an dra dree arlet me have you s the stage. >> the...
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do you this fellow romney? have you met romney? george romney? >> only casually. >>> 50 years ago, another romney was on the mind of the top democrat in the white house, and the clip you heard president kennedy is trying to gauge the political viability of mitt romney's father george romney. the conversation with douglas mccar thur was picked up by hidden microphones kennedy ordered installed in 1962. it's not clear why kennedy wanted his meetings and phone conversations recorded but we're left with hundreds of hours of secret discussions that lifted the veil on how president kennedy handled the crucial moments of his presidency. they are the subject of the new book "listening in the secret white house records of john f. kennedy." ted compiled the selections in this and joins us now. great to have you on set. >> thank you. >> an audio book and fascinating one at that. first and foremost we were talking about this during the break why the microphones everywhere? >> other presidents had taped conversations but to a smaller degree. fdr, truman and e
do you this fellow romney? have you met romney? george romney? >> only casually. >>> 50 years ago, another romney was on the mind of the top democrat in the white house, and the clip you heard president kennedy is trying to gauge the political viability of mitt romney's father george romney. the conversation with douglas mccar thur was picked up by hidden microphones kennedy ordered installed in 1962. it's not clear why kennedy wanted his meetings and phone conversations recorded...
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certainly not mitt romney. we've got people stationed, men and women, stationed in afghanistan and they're not talking about the war. you did a great segment on that last night. >> at least a long segment. 68 -- >> for good reasons. >> 68,000 americans who are really incredibly talented, incredible resources for our country, people in the prime of their lives risking their lives every day right now and in 2004, in that presidential campaign, we were at war and george w. bush and john kerry fought it out every day about the war. in 2008 we were at war, and barack obama and john mccain fought it out every day in that war. this week when the financial crisis was absolutely on fire, at that debate, they were talking about the wars. this year, president obama does bring it up, he does bring it up at most of his stump speeches, how he explains what he has done and planning on doing talking about the two wars. he doesn't have to say much more because he's speaking to an empty room. the romney campaign has no identifia
certainly not mitt romney. we've got people stationed, men and women, stationed in afghanistan and they're not talking about the war. you did a great segment on that last night. >> at least a long segment. 68 -- >> for good reasons. >> 68,000 americans who are really incredibly talented, incredible resources for our country, people in the prime of their lives risking their lives every day right now and in 2004, in that presidential campaign, we were at war and george w. bush...
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romney referring to 47% of americans as victims. interview last night with "60 minutes" romney was asked about his comments on that video and about whether his campaign was in need of a little repair. >> a lot of republicans would like to know a lot of your donors would like to know how do you turn this thing around? >> well it doesn't need a turn around. we have a campaign which is tied with an incumbent president of the united states. i've got a very effective campaign that's doing a very good job but not everything i say is elegant. i want to make it very clear, i want to help 100% of the american people. >> republican governor scott walker meanwhile of wisconsin, said he'd like romney's campaign to recapture the same energy it had after paul ryan was first announced as the running mate. >> i want to see more passion. certainly in part it is a referendum on this president there is no doubt. but i think in most americans there's a lot of independent swing voters they want to know what's wrong with this president, but they want to
romney referring to 47% of americans as victims. interview last night with "60 minutes" romney was asked about his comments on that video and about whether his campaign was in need of a little repair. >> a lot of republicans would like to know a lot of your donors would like to know how do you turn this thing around? >> well it doesn't need a turn around. we have a campaign which is tied with an incumbent president of the united states. i've got a very effective campaign...
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romney. gop nevada governor says about romney's 47% comment, quote, i don't agree with it. there's a lot of folks that i'm working extremely hard to get them unemployment and until they are employed, there are many services that are going to be needed. this is senator sandoval, a republican. people are understanding even in his own party how devastating this 47% tape you surfaced is and the president has it on an ad. >> people who conduct focus groups tell me that independent voters learned very quickly on their own about the 47% remark and focus groups said they brought it up on their own without being prompted and many have said that's reason enough for them to no longer consider voting for mitt romney and even some republicans in the margin have had similar reactions. looking at what the romney campaign has done the last few days and that ad they put out yesterday or the day before in which romney says, you know, the president is a good guy that cares about the poor and middle class, just
romney. gop nevada governor says about romney's 47% comment, quote, i don't agree with it. there's a lot of folks that i'm working extremely hard to get them unemployment and until they are employed, there are many services that are going to be needed. this is senator sandoval, a republican. people are understanding even in his own party how devastating this 47% tape you surfaced is and the president has it on an ad. >> people who conduct focus groups tell me that independent voters...
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earlier governor romney tried cozying up to bill clinton, but clinton says romney's caught on camera moment will be a problem for romney in the october debates. >> if he's going to double down on that 47%, that will cause difficulties because we now know that the overwhelming number of those people work and have children. >> over a week later, and that secret tape still hurts. joining me now is msnbc contributor and author megan mccain and democratic strategist tad devine, senior adviser for kerry and gore campaigns. thank you for joining us. >> good to be here. >> tad, let me start with you. it's been over a week since the tape came out. the president, joe biden, now bill clinton are all still hammering. how damaging is this 47% comment? >> reverend, i think it was terribly damaging. what happened with that tape was after months and months of the obama campaign in battleground state after state, running ads and telling people that mitt romney doesn't care about them, mitt romney came forward himself and confirmed those attacks. there's nothing more devastating and nothing more power
earlier governor romney tried cozying up to bill clinton, but clinton says romney's caught on camera moment will be a problem for romney in the october debates. >> if he's going to double down on that 47%, that will cause difficulties because we now know that the overwhelming number of those people work and have children. >> over a week later, and that secret tape still hurts. joining me now is msnbc contributor and author megan mccain and democratic strategist tad devine, senior...
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so did mitt romney. seeing what performances are like, i think the stakes are very high for both men. that's not his problem. his problem is that he is able to have one good day, not two good days. he needs to have a solid wednesday and be solid thursday, friday. otherwise it looks like another fluke. you prepared for one performance but your campaign is in disarray. you don't have answers to questions. you can't give details to policies. but you're making big promises. that's not going to work for governor romney. even if he has a good performance. i think with president obama, the challenge for him to, again, short answers kwb to the point. stay personable as we've seen him on the campaign trail. and call romney out on all the untruths, i'll say that kindly, that we've heard on the campaign trail. >> the one thing, perry, as karen talks about the romney campaign may have taken one step forward then two steps back at times. october certainly needs to be a stronger month than the last three months we've
so did mitt romney. seeing what performances are like, i think the stakes are very high for both men. that's not his problem. his problem is that he is able to have one good day, not two good days. he needs to have a solid wednesday and be solid thursday, friday. otherwise it looks like another fluke. you prepared for one performance but your campaign is in disarray. you don't have answers to questions. you can't give details to policies. but you're making big promises. that's not going to work...
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>> maybe. >> what was romney -- >> i think romney is -- i think he's a sharp, on-message attacker. >> lots of practice. >> he's had six years of practice. >> so after all that -- it was like a mensa meeting -- here's what we came up with. obama's strength is that he's the president. also, surprising. yes, he is the president. romney's -- you know, with the -- being an incumbent there's strengths along with that, and as toure says he knows everything. romney's strength is he's strong on message. when he's scripted and delivering a message, he does it well. romney's weakness on the contrary is when he has to ad-lib. he's bad at ad-libbing. he failing into making ill-fated bets, saying thing he shouldn't say. obama's weakness is that he hates romney. that's a weakness, because obama does have this tendency to come off as being a little arrogant, kond sending. that can be unlikeable. let me bring in our guest, jonathan allen, senior correspondent at politico. who do you think about the list? >> i think you guys hit for "the cycle" clearly. to mix the sports metaphors. >> i like that. >> i
>> maybe. >> what was romney -- >> i think romney is -- i think he's a sharp, on-message attacker. >> lots of practice. >> he's had six years of practice. >> so after all that -- it was like a mensa meeting -- here's what we came up with. obama's strength is that he's the president. also, surprising. yes, he is the president. romney's -- you know, with the -- being an incumbent there's strengths along with that, and as toure says he knows everything. romney's...
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mitt romney isn't succeeding as a solo act so the romney campaign is putting mitt romney and paul ryan on the campaign trail together, sort of a karaoke duet, i guess. what does it tell you the big draw on the republican ticket is the number two guy? let me finish tonight with how the democratic party has a huge opportunity to grow after this election. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> now that there's no chance of a republican replacing todd akin in the missouri senate race, claire mccaskill is hitting akin hard for his we'll be right back. >>> there's an attempt on the right wing to delegitimatize president obama, an attempt to declare our president not really an american. >> i would like to have him show his birth certificate. >> i wish this president would learn how to how to be an american. >> no one's asked for my birth certificate. >> this talk and false welfare ads is what president obama faces in the next 41 days. alex wagner host of "now" on msnbc and eugene robinson is a pulitzer prize winning columnist for "the washington post." thanks for joining us tonight.
mitt romney isn't succeeding as a solo act so the romney campaign is putting mitt romney and paul ryan on the campaign trail together, sort of a karaoke duet, i guess. what does it tell you the big draw on the republican ticket is the number two guy? let me finish tonight with how the democratic party has a huge opportunity to grow after this election. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> now that there's no chance of a republican replacing todd akin in the...
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mitt romney isn't succeeding as a solo act so the romney campaign is putting mitt romney and paul ryan on the campaign trail toeshgs a karaoke duet, i guess. what does it tell you the big draw on the republican ticket is the number two guy? let me finish tonight with how the democratic party has a huge opportunity to grow after this election. this is "hardball," the place for politics. by working people. the economy needs manufacturing. machines, tools, people making stuff. companies have to invest in making things. infrastructure, construction, production. we need it now more than ever. chevron's putting more than $8 billion dollars back in the u.s. economy this year. in pipes, cement, steel, jobs, energy. we need to get the wheels turning. i'm proud of that. making real things... for real. ...that make a real difference. ♪ >>> now that there's no chance of a republican replacing todd akin in the missouri senate race, claire mccaskill is hitting akin hard for his comment, legitimate rape, in an ad. >> todd akin in his own words. on march 18, 2011, todd akin said he didn't like socia
mitt romney isn't succeeding as a solo act so the romney campaign is putting mitt romney and paul ryan on the campaign trail toeshgs a karaoke duet, i guess. what does it tell you the big draw on the republican ticket is the number two guy? let me finish tonight with how the democratic party has a huge opportunity to grow after this election. this is "hardball," the place for politics. by working people. the economy needs manufacturing. machines, tools, people making stuff. companies...
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romney's campaign is no different. take a listen. >> if a student wants to go to a charter school or parochial or private school, the student can go and the federal money goes with the student. so that we -- we allow more choice for parents. i like every parent to have a choice and every child to have a chance. >> as for the teachers, savannah guthrie sat down with president obama and asked him about the strike in his hometown of chicago which pitted his former chief of staff against unions who support politically he does depend on. >> mitt romney said that president obama has chosen his side in this fight that you sided with the unions and last spring he said he can't talk up reform while indulging in groups that block it. >> well, you know, i think governor romney and a number of folks try to politicize the issue and do a lot of teacher bashing. when i meet teachers all across the country, they are so devoted and so dedicated to their kids. what we have tried to do is actually break through this left/right conservati
romney's campaign is no different. take a listen. >> if a student wants to go to a charter school or parochial or private school, the student can go and the federal money goes with the student. so that we -- we allow more choice for parents. i like every parent to have a choice and every child to have a chance. >> as for the teachers, savannah guthrie sat down with president obama and asked him about the strike in his hometown of chicago which pitted his former chief of staff...
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romney/ryan, romney/ryan, there we go. that's great. >> he's having to introduce them there to his name and his running mate's name. >> they were getting the hang of it. >> it was good. it's a bit of a problem though, isn't it, because some of his advisers are actually saying their internal polling shows that they're still in this fight and yet all the published polling that we have access to suggests that things are slipping away. >> that's right. and a lot has been made, you know, we have the debates coming up, they could be pivotal and they certainly could be but we've heard that in the past. his vice presidential pick was supposed to dang the dynamics. his speech at the rnc was supposed to change the dynamics. all these pivot points have actually gone in the other direction. i think voters are getting locked into their decision ahead of the debates. it's hard to imagine mitt romney having such a stellar debate performance that he could really turn this thing around. >> are you sensing there's almost a rhythm of failure
romney/ryan, romney/ryan, there we go. that's great. >> he's having to introduce them there to his name and his running mate's name. >> they were getting the hang of it. >> it was good. it's a bit of a problem though, isn't it, because some of his advisers are actually saying their internal polling shows that they're still in this fight and yet all the published polling that we have access to suggests that things are slipping away. >> that's right. and a lot has been...
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>> romney is a strikeout. >> if we don't run chris christie, romney will be the nominee and he'll lose. >> it is a big day in the big apple. >> president obama is in new york right now. >> america wants to resolve this issue through diplomacy. >> there was president obama giving a speech. >> i accept people are going to call me awful things every day. >> then there was mitt romney. >> the few words from bill clinton can do a man a lot of good. >> if he's going to double down on that 47, that will cause difficulties. >> wait a couple of days for that bounce. >> he has no past that i can ever spot. >> i can appreciate your kind words. >> when i was a boy i used to think that becoming rich and becoming famous would make me happy. boy, was i right. >> yeah, he said that. with just 42 days until the presidential election and with a new poll showing mitt romney's path to the presidency rapidly narrowing, paul ryan is rapidly realizing that he is well on his way to becoming the next losing vice president candidate. so he is desperately trying to avoid the stench of romney. yes, the stench. th
>> romney is a strikeout. >> if we don't run chris christie, romney will be the nominee and he'll lose. >> it is a big day in the big apple. >> president obama is in new york right now. >> america wants to resolve this issue through diplomacy. >> there was president obama giving a speech. >> i accept people are going to call me awful things every day. >> then there was mitt romney. >> the few words from bill clinton can do a man a lot of...
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the mitt romney who was governor and not the mitt romney who trying to become an extreme right-winger. he's not comfortable with it. you can see the wheels turning when he's asked questions, guys. what do i say that doesn't offend the base? good lord, governor, the base was voting genz president obama no matter who is on the ballot. the compete for the rest of us. >> let me ask you about president obama. "the washington post" gave the president for pinocchios on the claim it was bush's fault. is romney missing opportunity to go after obama on his record and misstatements, stories i hear out of politico for one is he focused more on mistruths in the debates and the campaign. is that a good strategy? >> it's really one of the few arrows he has left. no question about it. he won't win in election by attacking president obama. he has to give the american people a clear and cojent plan why he's better and a better bet to take. it's always a risk when you turn away from an incumbent president. americans have shown their willingness to do so. the carter election and the first george bush ele
the mitt romney who was governor and not the mitt romney who trying to become an extreme right-winger. he's not comfortable with it. you can see the wheels turning when he's asked questions, guys. what do i say that doesn't offend the base? good lord, governor, the base was voting genz president obama no matter who is on the ballot. the compete for the rest of us. >> let me ask you about president obama. "the washington post" gave the president for pinocchios on the claim it was...
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romney, mr. turzai, mr. metcalfe and their friends will attempt to create confusion and chaos now that we beat this thing back. so we're going to be just as vigorous now as we have been. your prior guest on the prior segment talked about anger. let me tell you something, chris, there's a lot of angry voters in pennsylvania. mitt romney and todd corbett for this chicanery. they're going to have a conversation with them at the polls on november the 6th. >> let me ask you, kathy, why did this creep up on so many people? i have been making some noise about it, but this is like a multistate thing, something like 20 or 30 states involved in this, all basically pushed by the republicans, all pushed to stamping down on the chance of minority people and older people to vote. clearly partisan and ethnic in nature. here we are, i may be the only one on national television yelling about this thing, but it just seems -- as bill clinton said beautifully, it's blatant and yet nobody's been raising hell about it. >> that's
romney, mr. turzai, mr. metcalfe and their friends will attempt to create confusion and chaos now that we beat this thing back. so we're going to be just as vigorous now as we have been. your prior guest on the prior segment talked about anger. let me tell you something, chris, there's a lot of angry voters in pennsylvania. mitt romney and todd corbett for this chicanery. they're going to have a conversation with them at the polls on november the 6th. >> let me ask you, kathy, why did...
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obviously mitt romney is a good debater. he made it through the primaries and has had practice this year. barack obama, debating is not his greatest strength. he's a wonderful orator and has been a successful president. i think he'll do a good job, but i think it's going to be a competitive debate. >> do you think it's going to make a big difference for mitt romney to really show himself and really for these two men to be on the same stage? >> well, that helps mitt romney to be on the same stage with the president of the united states. there's no doubt. it always helps the challenger with the incumbent. the problem, though, is i think what susan pointed out and dana pointed out is that we really don't know who mitt romney is. so the question is which mitt romney will appear on the debate stage? and that will determine whether people will believe whatever candidate shows up at that time. >> all right. dana, real fast, though, president obama has a lot on his agenda. starting tomorrow, he's going to be here in new york city. a
obviously mitt romney is a good debater. he made it through the primaries and has had practice this year. barack obama, debating is not his greatest strength. he's a wonderful orator and has been a successful president. i think he'll do a good job, but i think it's going to be a competitive debate. >> do you think it's going to make a big difference for mitt romney to really show himself and really for these two men to be on the same stage? >> well, that helps mitt romney to be on...
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mitt romney isn't succeeding as a solo act so the romney campaign is putting mitt romney and paul ryan on the campaign trail together, sort of a karaoke duet, i guess. what does it tell you the big draw on the republican ticket is the number two guy? let me finish tonight with how the democratic party has a huge opportunity to grow after this election. this is "hardball," the place for politics. business pro. governor of getting it done. you know how to dance... with a deadline. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. this is awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it is, business pro. yes, it is. go national. go like a pro. so it can feel like you're using nothing at all. but neosporin® eczema essentials™ is different. its multi-action formula restores visibly healthier skin in 3 days. neosporin® eczema essentials™. >>> now that there's no chance of a republican replacing todd akin in the missouri senate race, claire mccaskill is hitting akin hard for hi
mitt romney isn't succeeding as a solo act so the romney campaign is putting mitt romney and paul ryan on the campaign trail together, sort of a karaoke duet, i guess. what does it tell you the big draw on the republican ticket is the number two guy? let me finish tonight with how the democratic party has a huge opportunity to grow after this election. this is "hardball," the place for politics. business pro. governor of getting it done. you know how to dance... with a deadline. and...
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romney, 1 million. but not all of these followers are real, says social media company status people. their engine finds that just 24% of obama followers are good, and 55% of romney's in these little areas here. now, still the good ratio when you look at it with obama is 7x, if you were to do the math there. either way romney has an opportunity here, says an article entitled "is romney homsocial?" 57% to 80% of these users dominated by women. and romney's early social media efforts here, chris, were not as aggressive as obama's. >> i guess it's too early. we've never had a campaign like this, so we'll see if these kinds of numbers actually have any relationship to getting people to the polls. >> the first social media campaign, they say. right? >> fascinating stuff. thank you so much, richard. >>> and that does wrap up this hour of "jansing & co." thomas roberts is up next. >> good morning. mitt romney sets aside fund-raising for actual campaigning. with only 43 days left, can romney reveal his true core
romney, 1 million. but not all of these followers are real, says social media company status people. their engine finds that just 24% of obama followers are good, and 55% of romney's in these little areas here. now, still the good ratio when you look at it with obama is 7x, if you were to do the math there. either way romney has an opportunity here, says an article entitled "is romney homsocial?" 57% to 80% of these users dominated by women. and romney's early social media efforts...
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he is quite close to mitt romney. he knew him before -- >> how about the fact, i was going to say, how about the fact today he will speak by phone to both. a world leader doing that -- >> that's a danger for him, i have known him a long time. he is always moving forward. the danger is that he can involve himself too demonstrably in the american election this time with the kinds of statements he has been making, positions he has been taking. he is imposing himself on what the american people need to decide for themselves. >> take it in the reverse, how often, you could say in not so friendly democracies, america over the years may have gotten involved in leadership elections, but in some of the most friendly allies, how often do american presidents do that? >> they generally stand back, let the american people make a decision. in fact, at this time which is a volatile time in that part of the world, what is also striking to me is that this gives president obama cover to some degree, not just on the iran issue. >> take
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romney senior adviser in a new memo says voters will get to know more about the specifics of the romney plan and how it will benefit them. on sunday it was the latest survey to show him trailing by five or more points in the buckeye state. here's the reality for the gop ticket in the state. you could argue obama is in a stronger position in north carolina, his battleground state, than romney is in ohio. a state that every republican presidential nominee has won. this morning president romney has a new ad in ohio. some wouldn't sound out of place if he were a labor leader. >> fewer americans are working today than when president obama took office. it doesn't have to be this way, if obama would stand up to china. >> china bashing always works in primary campaigns and general election campaigns in places like ohio. the obama campaign is countering in its own new add. the first in the campaign trying to use can 47% comment against him. >> mitt romney attacked 47% of americans who pay no income tax. including veterans, elderly, the disabled. >> my job is not to worry about those people. sfwl
romney senior adviser in a new memo says voters will get to know more about the specifics of the romney plan and how it will benefit them. on sunday it was the latest survey to show him trailing by five or more points in the buckeye state. here's the reality for the gop ticket in the state. you could argue obama is in a stronger position in north carolina, his battleground state, than romney is in ohio. a state that every republican presidential nominee has won. this morning president romney...
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romney is a pretty good debater. whoever in the clip said there that romney has had 20 or whatever it is recent debates, that's true. during the primaries when romney needed to deliver a big knockout punch to newt gingrich and to rick perry, he managed to do it, and he did it very aggressively. so he knows what he's doing up there. obama needs to be on his toes. you know, i just think he can anticipate most of what romney is going to say, but he needs to have a few zingers of his own to make sure he gets his share of sound bites in the newscasts that follow. >> based on previous debate performances, how would you characterize governor romney's style versus the president's style? >> romney is good on the attack, i think. as i just indicated, i mean, when he needed to flash the knife against rick perry in that one debate i'm particularly thinking of, he really did it. he's good at that, and he's not going to back down. you know, a lot of this also comes down to interpersonal dynamics and how they play off each other an
romney is a pretty good debater. whoever in the clip said there that romney has had 20 or whatever it is recent debates, that's true. during the primaries when romney needed to deliver a big knockout punch to newt gingrich and to rick perry, he managed to do it, and he did it very aggressively. so he knows what he's doing up there. obama needs to be on his toes. you know, i just think he can anticipate most of what romney is going to say, but he needs to have a few zingers of his own to make...
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he'll stand in as mitt romney. one thing we're reporting is both sides trying to lower expectations heading into the debate on wednesday, which is key for both candidates, alex. >> for themselves and increasing them for the other guy. that's what they're doing right now. thank you so much. let's bring in the political power panel. jonathan kapart, and chris cofinus and jackie gingrich kushman, author and daughter of newt gingrich and former adviser to her father's presidential campaign. welcome to the throuee of you. five days is all mitt romney has before the debate. the politico article everybody is talking about today say this isn't the chair or ho hum convention or the leaked video or distorted polls or the message or mormonism. it's mitt. does he have enough time for a real game change? >> you know, five days before the first debate, 40 days before election day people go around the country already are starting to vote early voting in a bunch of states across the country. it's unclear whether there's enough tim
he'll stand in as mitt romney. one thing we're reporting is both sides trying to lower expectations heading into the debate on wednesday, which is key for both candidates, alex. >> for themselves and increasing them for the other guy. that's what they're doing right now. thank you so much. let's bring in the political power panel. jonathan kapart, and chris cofinus and jackie gingrich kushman, author and daughter of newt gingrich and former adviser to her father's presidential campaign....
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anyway, this may explain why romney is in trouble because people out there think his party is out of it. joining me is howard fineman and joe klein of the times. let's take a look at the two polls. the two key states ohio and florida. according to "the washington post," president obama has a four-point lead over mitt romney in florida. four points down there in a very tough state. 51%,/47% for obama. in ohio, the president's lead is a more comfortable eight points. 52/44. that's dramatic. we have joining us -- let's take a look at that for a minute. howard fineman, thank you for joining us, and joe klein of "time" magazine. thank you. it strikes me the numbers i put out tonight, and i'm going to get all through them, shows a party obliterated to reality. she don't seem to watch the news. don't seem to know the huge fight that went on when we realized there was no weapons of mass destruction in iraq. that was the whole reality we lived in, the disillusionment on the right, the confusion in the middle, the anger on the left. they didn't even experience that period of time? >> well, chr
anyway, this may explain why romney is in trouble because people out there think his party is out of it. joining me is howard fineman and joe klein of the times. let's take a look at the two polls. the two key states ohio and florida. according to "the washington post," president obama has a four-point lead over mitt romney in florida. four points down there in a very tough state. 51%,/47% for obama. in ohio, the president's lead is a more comfortable eight points. 52/44. that's...
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romney, ryan. romney, ryan. romney, ryan. there you go. i guess the question becomes are people pushing him into something he's not? he got good interviews in. is the trouble in part when romney tries not to be romney? >> yeah, i think it's ironic that they're saying let ryan be ryan. but throughout then tire process, we've really not been 100% clear who mitt romney is, right, because the guy who was governor of massachusetts, had he run as that guy, he would have been more like the guy we saw on "60 minutes." he's been forced to run this eternal primary where he's constantly trying to please the farthest right base of the republican party and so he isn't really being allowed to make what is supposed to be a pivot to a general election candidacy. so i think the problem really is partly that. then they've tried to pull romney into the ryan mold. they vnld allowed ryan to do what he was picked to do, which is talks on policy because they understand that would be even more unpopular than what they're putting out there right now? >> is it that
romney, ryan. romney, ryan. romney, ryan. there you go. i guess the question becomes are people pushing him into something he's not? he got good interviews in. is the trouble in part when romney tries not to be romney? >> yeah, i think it's ironic that they're saying let ryan be ryan. but throughout then tire process, we've really not been 100% clear who mitt romney is, right, because the guy who was governor of massachusetts, had he run as that guy, he would have been more like the guy...
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mitt romney does not. the question becomes whether or not wednesday becomes a game changer for the senator. >> i have a theory when someone is on the verge of winning, we get into more battle dround state, not less states. >>> when we come back, we're going to talk more. trivia time. how many vice presidents served under more than one president? two. john calhoun served under both john quincy adams and andrew jackson. we'll be right back. [ humming ] [ humming ] [ male announcer ] kraft macaroni & cheese. you know you love it. >>> i think mitt romney is not in touch with the little guy. he's always been a supporter of big oil. he has friends in the big oil industry. that might be great for mitt romney and big oil, but try telling that to my kids. >> a half million dollar ad campaign bye for one state. it's airing in denver just two days before the first presidential debate. let's bring back our panel. colorado has been on the edge for awhile. it really hasn't moved dramatically the way the others have. whe
mitt romney does not. the question becomes whether or not wednesday becomes a game changer for the senator. >> i have a theory when someone is on the verge of winning, we get into more battle dround state, not less states. >>> when we come back, we're going to talk more. trivia time. how many vice presidents served under more than one president? two. john calhoun served under both john quincy adams and andrew jackson. we'll be right back. [ humming ] [ humming ] [ male announcer...
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mitt romney jumped on it. and i would suggest -- and i've got to say for my democratic friends, after weeks of wailing against mitt romney's ineptitude and to foumbling around, i woul say that was a mistake for the president to say. do i have a point there or not? do you think i've been off? >> i wouldn't have used the phrase bump in the road. but the general idea that u.s. policy in the region, the president i think was saying essential hily believes we havee cataclysmic change taking place there. there's no easy way to charter course through that doesn't involve some trouble somewhere along the line. i think you could have used a better phrase than bump in the road when you're talking an about ambassador that was killed. but if you're talking about continuity of policy and the fact that we're -- there will be ups and downs and -- and sh -- and there's no way for us sitting in washington or in the united states or anywhere else to decide which directions these countries move at any given day and, you know, th
mitt romney jumped on it. and i would suggest -- and i've got to say for my democratic friends, after weeks of wailing against mitt romney's ineptitude and to foumbling around, i woul say that was a mistake for the president to say. do i have a point there or not? do you think i've been off? >> i wouldn't have used the phrase bump in the road. but the general idea that u.s. policy in the region, the president i think was saying essential hily believes we havee cataclysmic change taking...
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romney. first to iowa. president obama is 49% to mitt romney's 5%. >>> and from the columbia dispatch--this has surrogates from both parties sangled today over who's better equipped to guide the economy over the next four years. >> the president hay has created 4 million new manufacturing jobs. he says he's going to reduce the debt. doesn't say how' goegsing to do it. let's be fair here, governor romney has laid out a vision and a direction for this country. let's hold the president to the same standard as well. >> first of all, we have a deficit plan, it's got health care savings. romney doesn't have a deficit plan. he's got a plan to cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires. he's got a 5 trilli$5 trillion. -- another $2 trillion in defense spending. >> just three days into the first presidential debate, meanwhile mitt romney is off to the trail. we have two reports, we begin with nbc's peter alexander, he's with the romney campaign in boston, with a good morning to you, peter. what are y
romney. first to iowa. president obama is 49% to mitt romney's 5%. >>> and from the columbia dispatch--this has surrogates from both parties sangled today over who's better equipped to guide the economy over the next four years. >> the president hay has created 4 million new manufacturing jobs. he says he's going to reduce the debt. doesn't say how' goegsing to do it. let's be fair here, governor romney has laid out a vision and a direction for this country. let's hold the...
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yesterday, showing romney down 8. ohio has been a problem for romney since the primaries when of all the midwestern states it with us the closest one where rick santorum nearly pulled off an upset. it's certainly the toughest in the badleground. the problem for romney is if he concedes ohio to obama, the president is simile one state away from a win. it's not a florida or virginia. he's a wisconsin away, a nevada away. that's the real problem here. the romney campaign needs ohio back. like this line yesterday, they tried to hammer obama on taxes. take a listen. >> he's got one new idea. i admit this. he has one thing he did not do in his first four years he said he's going to do in the next four years which is to raise taxes. is there anybody who thinks raising taxes will help grow the economy? >> no. >> ryan's expression back there when he looks over at portman, kind of intriguing. it would be curious what a thought bubble would be going on over there. but it's a little bit of a change for romney. he had often been a
yesterday, showing romney down 8. ohio has been a problem for romney since the primaries when of all the midwestern states it with us the closest one where rick santorum nearly pulled off an upset. it's certainly the toughest in the badleground. the problem for romney is if he concedes ohio to obama, the president is simile one state away from a win. it's not a florida or virginia. he's a wisconsin away, a nevada away. that's the real problem here. the romney campaign needs ohio back. like this...
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we're not seeing that from romney. >> mitt romney hasn't explained anything in the last year and a half. we don't know anything more about bain, about his faith, don't know about the touch stones that people have questions about. >> i really would -- >> is katon can the guy do this at the debate. >> he has the opportunity. he's done 20-something debates against gingrich and ron paul and others. >> raise those expectations. >> he also did them with ted kennedy, which lowered the expectations. what you're saying is the president is a well-organized campaign. all these messages aren't coming out by themselves. they're pushing them out. he has the power. si. he's invested in a ground game in 12 states. in north carolina, with early voting, 12,000 people have already voted. on gameday, 747,000 people voted for obama and a million -- for mccain. organization matters and the way the earned media is going matters. a lot of the ideas that romney is behind is the president has a pretty good campaign. >> certainly not a bad one. >> we have ground game. but he's running a pretty good campaign. >> n
we're not seeing that from romney. >> mitt romney hasn't explained anything in the last year and a half. we don't know anything more about bain, about his faith, don't know about the touch stones that people have questions about. >> i really would -- >> is katon can the guy do this at the debate. >> he has the opportunity. he's done 20-something debates against gingrich and ron paul and others. >> raise those expectations. >> he also did them with ted...
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romney will repeal that. ryan says that too. it looked to me like that was working, that they were actually managing to sort of get to the president's left on medicare and attack him and say the president's going to cut your medicare, we're going to protect it. i don't know why it's not still working. >> here's why. so they've decided they're going to pick this fight on medicare. it's a bizarre fight they picked for the reasons you named. clearly they're the party that wants to shrink the entitlement state. you have to see what they say behind closed doors or read conservative blogs. we know what the conservative apparatus in the republican party thinks about the entitlement state. they want to say we're going to be more extravagant to you seniors. they made the mistake of picking a fight on an issue that the democrats have reputational capital built up over time. it's not sustainable. if democrats went out and convinced them that they were the party that would give tax cuts to the rich, it would not be possible. it's not credib
romney will repeal that. ryan says that too. it looked to me like that was working, that they were actually managing to sort of get to the president's left on medicare and attack him and say the president's going to cut your medicare, we're going to protect it. i don't know why it's not still working. >> here's why. so they've decided they're going to pick this fight on medicare. it's a bizarre fight they picked for the reasons you named. clearly they're the party that wants to shrink the...
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romney, ryan. romney, ryan. romney, ryan. >> okay, now, you'll notice in both clips mitt looks just as goofy which caused me to react. some people heard romney. other people heard ryan. our clip from nbc, unfiltered, we ran it. politico heard ryan as well, and they report it had that way around 5:30 the afternoon of the event, which was what our staff followed. later "the new york times" wrote that the crowd was chanting "romney," then they followed with a correction that our staff read overnight saying kind of hard to follow what it was. this was among the chee-tos brigade as to whether i would vote for mitt romney, is trying to throw the election by filtering a tape and cracking a joke. really, guys? your conspiracy theories are getting out of hand, the poll con spercy, the fox news to throw the election for barack obama? it's getting out of hand. like this two-second frenzy is just silly. conservative blogger jazz shawl for hotair. too many people who are ostensibly fighting for the conservative cause have ch
romney, ryan. romney, ryan. romney, ryan. >> okay, now, you'll notice in both clips mitt looks just as goofy which caused me to react. some people heard romney. other people heard ryan. our clip from nbc, unfiltered, we ran it. politico heard ryan as well, and they report it had that way around 5:30 the afternoon of the event, which was what our staff followed. later "the new york times" wrote that the crowd was chanting "romney," then they followed with a correction...
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romney 44. chuck? >> the one thing i've heard on this poll is democrats are arguing that northern virginia was under represented in the poll. that said, i mean we're talking a difference of a point or two. if you will. and it's sort of in the range of what you hear where virginia is anywhere from two to five points so the number was not surprising. >> chuck todd, david gregory, you look at all of these polls and, david, look at the fact, in ohio, even the romney people understand they're down six, seven, eight points. and they're down right now in north carolina, a state they were ahead in and not so long ago. it makes you think that newt gingrich is right, mitt romney needs to turn in a great performance in the first debate, or else the window starts closing. >> this is very clear. you get several big opportunities as a candidate to make your mark. the announcement of your running mate. your convention. and then the debates. and the reality is that mitt romney is not seized on those first two events.
romney 44. chuck? >> the one thing i've heard on this poll is democrats are arguing that northern virginia was under represented in the poll. that said, i mean we're talking a difference of a point or two. if you will. and it's sort of in the range of what you hear where virginia is anywhere from two to five points so the number was not surprising. >> chuck todd, david gregory, you look at all of these polls and, david, look at the fact, in ohio, even the romney people understand...
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romney, it's not -- of course it's not insurmountable, but the pressure's on romney to win. >> so romney has a challenge on his hands for sure. mark halperin, leading into the debates, how, then, do you coax, cajole information out of these candidates given the scenario that chuck just laid out that actually gives you something that you can make a decision on as a voter? >> well, i think the big question for romney is performance. look at what he did on "60 minutes." he talked on the plane last night to his press corps. he's still giving the same kinds of answers, the same specificity and lack of specificity, the same failure to drive a message to put the president on the defensive. if you're a candidate behind and you have that long "60 minutes" interview where you make the choice to talk to your press corps, you've got to drive something that dominates the news rather than the same old questions about low level of performance, same questions about lack of specificity, same questions about why are you behind in all the battleground states? i don't think he did that in either of those tw
romney, it's not -- of course it's not insurmountable, but the pressure's on romney to win. >> so romney has a challenge on his hands for sure. mark halperin, leading into the debates, how, then, do you coax, cajole information out of these candidates given the scenario that chuck just laid out that actually gives you something that you can make a decision on as a voter? >> well, i think the big question for romney is performance. look at what he did on "60 minutes." he...
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ed said i see no connection between that mitt romney and this mitt romney. you've talked about the remarkable things he's done on wall street. what he did with bain capital, what a great american success story that is. and yet for you as well, there's a huge disconnect between that mitt romney and the mitt romney that we're seeing bumbling around on the campaign trail. it seems that while presidential elections elevate some like reagan and clinton, they diminish others like mitt romney. >> yeah, i think people like me who are fundamentally kind of technocrats and businesspeople look at what he did in massachusetts and say he got a lot of stuff done, worked with the rest of the government, et cetera, et cetera, got health care done, this is how government should function, but i think it's relatively obvious that what happened out on the campaign trail is that he was pushed into places, into corners, into positions that he may or may not actually believe in, but which portray him and create an image of him in a very, very different light. and so now we are lef
ed said i see no connection between that mitt romney and this mitt romney. you've talked about the remarkable things he's done on wall street. what he did with bain capital, what a great american success story that is. and yet for you as well, there's a huge disconnect between that mitt romney and the mitt romney that we're seeing bumbling around on the campaign trail. it seems that while presidential elections elevate some like reagan and clinton, they diminish others like mitt romney....
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romney/ryan, romney/ryan, romney/ryan. there we go. thank you. >> oh, sweet jesus. >> i'm sorry, i'm sorry. i shouldn't be so hard on you. i shouldn't bring um newt gingrich. >> it's just irrelevant. >> it's irrelevant. what do the catholics say? holy mary mother of god, pray for us sinners now and in thy hour of peace? >> no. it's other. >> i just did bad having gone to catholic high school. it's in the end of "godfather 2." >> how do you fix it? >> you don't fix it. he's a great man. he's a great father, great husband, great businessman, great turnaround guy. if i had a business anywhere in the world, e'd have him run it. he's just -- he's a horrible politician. he's one of the worst. he's great guy. i just want to say, he's a great, gate, guy, but, man, ed rendell, you know it. great guy. >> mitt romney when i knew him as governor of massachusetts was smart, competent, confident. >> so you think he could be worked with if he had the right team around him? >> well, i think they tried to make him into something he's not, and when that
romney/ryan, romney/ryan, romney/ryan. there we go. thank you. >> oh, sweet jesus. >> i'm sorry, i'm sorry. i shouldn't be so hard on you. i shouldn't bring um newt gingrich. >> it's just irrelevant. >> it's irrelevant. what do the catholics say? holy mary mother of god, pray for us sinners now and in thy hour of peace? >> no. it's other. >> i just did bad having gone to catholic high school. it's in the end of "godfather 2." >> how do you fix...